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joker 67
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PostSubject: Re: Tango Van - 1972 westy..   Tango Van - 1972 westy.. - Page 10 EmptyWed May 02, 2012 7:52 pm

Phone gaz. They can rebuild. The shocks
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tango_van
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My Ride(s) : 1972 Westy Camper Van, 09 Newbie 1.9tdi, Audi A4 B7 S-line
Registration date : 2006-10-11

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PostSubject: Re: Tango Van - 1972 westy..   Tango Van - 1972 westy.. - Page 10 EmptyWed May 02, 2012 9:42 pm

I wonder if these would do if all else fails....

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coilovers from t2d. I've emailed to ask for specs etc..
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WizBizMartin
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PostSubject: Re: Tango Van - 1972 westy..   Tango Van - 1972 westy.. - Page 10 EmptyWed May 02, 2012 9:56 pm

Get some specs check the load rating of the springs etc and compare to yours, the current load rating should be on the springs if there not worn off.
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WizBizMartin
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PostSubject: Re: Tango Van - 1972 westy..   Tango Van - 1972 westy.. - Page 10 EmptyWed May 02, 2012 9:57 pm

Not load rating I mean like the strength hardness of springs
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joker 67
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PostSubject: Re: Tango Van - 1972 westy..   Tango Van - 1972 westy.. - Page 10 EmptyThu May 03, 2012 8:13 am

just looked at the gaz website, all shocks carry a 2 year warrenty, plus if you contact them they can re-build your old units.


http://www.gazshocks.com/about
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Shorty
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PostSubject: Re: Tango Van - 1972 westy..   Tango Van - 1972 westy.. - Page 10 EmptyThu May 03, 2012 4:29 pm

WizBizMartin wrote:
Not load rating I mean like the strength hardness of springs

One assumes you mean spring rate? (ie. the force required to compress the spring by a certain dimension) Not UTS or Hardness?
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tango_van
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Male Number of posts : 2846
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My Ride(s) : 1972 Westy Camper Van, 09 Newbie 1.9tdi, Audi A4 B7 S-line
Registration date : 2006-10-11

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PostSubject: Re: Tango Van - 1972 westy..   Tango Van - 1972 westy.. - Page 10 EmptyThu May 03, 2012 6:52 pm

Rang GAZ today.

They will rebuild them for approx £30+vat and carriage per corner..

so sent them today next day delivery!

They'll take 3 working days to sort and return and aim to have the bus back on the road next weekend.

Still will look at putting adjusters on the beam in the future, and for good measure adjustable rear spring plates... Very Happy

Going to the dust covers on the weekend...
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Mr Scoops
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PostSubject: Re: Tango Van - 1972 westy..   Tango Van - 1972 westy.. - Page 10 EmptyThu May 03, 2012 7:05 pm

Good work Sir!

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joker 67
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PostSubject: Re: Tango Van - 1972 westy..   Tango Van - 1972 westy.. - Page 10 EmptyThu May 03, 2012 7:14 pm

thats alot cheaper than new ones.

good call rich.
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Shorty
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PostSubject: Re: Tango Van - 1972 westy..   Tango Van - 1972 westy.. - Page 10 EmptyThu May 03, 2012 8:52 pm

Mr Scoops wrote:
Good work Sir!

joker 67 wrote:
thats alot cheaper than new ones.

good call rich.

What they said... good work Rich, one phone call saved you a packet! happy times! Very Happy
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tango_van
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PostSubject: Re: Tango Van - 1972 westy..   Tango Van - 1972 westy.. - Page 10 EmptyThu May 03, 2012 8:55 pm

They cost me £25 to send mind!
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tango_van
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PostSubject: Re: Tango Van - 1972 westy..   Tango Van - 1972 westy.. - Page 10 EmptyFri May 04, 2012 10:23 pm

Tonights efforts ...
Tie rods removed and balljoints un-ceased!
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Not a lot of space under the bus, as garage door supports are in the way!
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The removed rubbers...
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Balljoints soaking overnight to help free them up more...
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Other ends will get a bit more soaking in the morning
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Will get the dust covers in the noting and regressed the joints and then refit to the bus..
Just waiting on the shocks to be returned ....

And a big thank you to wizpop for your ball splitter tool Wink
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chipper
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PostSubject: Re: Tango Van - 1972 westy..   Tango Van - 1972 westy.. - Page 10 EmptyFri May 04, 2012 10:26 pm

tango_van wrote:
And a big thank you to wizpop for your ball splitter tool Wink

Oh the girlfriend jokes that could follow!!! lol!
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Road Rage
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PostSubject: Re: Tango Van - 1972 westy..   Tango Van - 1972 westy.. - Page 10 EmptyFri May 04, 2012 11:56 pm

tango_van wrote:

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What worked best? The branston pickle or the jam? My money is on the branston as it has a higher acid content

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Sometimes even Volkswagen get it a bit wrong the first time

Even split screens had high indicators Wink

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tango_van
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Male Number of posts : 2846
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My Ride(s) : 1972 Westy Camper Van, 09 Newbie 1.9tdi, Audi A4 B7 S-line
Registration date : 2006-10-11

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PostSubject: Re: Tango Van - 1972 westy..   Tango Van - 1972 westy.. - Page 10 EmptySat May 05, 2012 5:54 am

I go and have a look in a bit..
This will help though ...
Branston is 2 stroke gear oil
Jam (strawberry) is 0-40w fully synth diesel oil

Wink

Both were freed up with gt50 spray and then 3-in-1 oil worked into each end...
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tango_van
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Male Number of posts : 2846
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Registration date : 2006-10-11

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PostSubject: Re: Tango Van - 1972 westy..   Tango Van - 1972 westy.. - Page 10 EmptySat May 05, 2012 6:16 pm

Lots done this afternoon ...

Tie rods all freed up, new boots and greased and bolted back on.

Reverse lights fixed.

Sorted out tyre size for rear wheels to get the back down and the can level.

And played with some ideas for wheels and offset options...

Big thanks to wizpop and chipper for the help and mrswizpop for helping entertain my kids in the van!
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Shorty
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PostSubject: Re: Tango Van - 1972 westy..   Tango Van - 1972 westy.. - Page 10 EmptySat May 05, 2012 7:32 pm

ideas for wheels? you can't leave us hanging like that!
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chipper
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PostSubject: Re: Tango Van - 1972 westy..   Tango Van - 1972 westy.. - Page 10 EmptySat May 05, 2012 8:11 pm

I know what they are!!!!
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Shorty
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Male Number of posts : 3362
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Location : LAT: 51.679 LONG: -3.159
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PostSubject: Re: Tango Van - 1972 westy..   Tango Van - 1972 westy.. - Page 10 EmptySat May 05, 2012 8:22 pm

Scoops. Either make him tell us, or ban him! Very Happy lol!
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Mr Scoops
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PostSubject: Re: Tango Van - 1972 westy..   Tango Van - 1972 westy.. - Page 10 EmptySun May 06, 2012 8:49 am

EMPI 8 spokes

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tango_van
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Male Number of posts : 2846
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My Ride(s) : 1972 Westy Camper Van, 09 Newbie 1.9tdi, Audi A4 B7 S-line
Registration date : 2006-10-11

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PostSubject: Re: Tango Van - 1972 westy..   Tango Van - 1972 westy.. - Page 10 EmptySun May 06, 2012 8:52 am

Mr Scoops wrote:
EMPI 8 spokes

lol!
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tango_van
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Male Number of posts : 2846
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Registration date : 2006-10-11

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PostSubject: Re: Tango Van - 1972 westy..   Tango Van - 1972 westy.. - Page 10 EmptySun May 06, 2012 7:38 pm

Here's some trial fits for ideas...

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Offset seems better than my current brm wheels...
Lots of room under the rear arches .....
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Shorty
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Location : LAT: 51.679 LONG: -3.159
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PostSubject: Re: Tango Van - 1972 westy..   Tango Van - 1972 westy.. - Page 10 EmptySun May 06, 2012 8:05 pm

running 5x112 to 5x130 adaptors?
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tango_van
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tango_van

Male Number of posts : 2846
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Registration date : 2006-10-11

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PostSubject: Re: Tango Van - 1972 westy..   Tango Van - 1972 westy.. - Page 10 EmptySun May 06, 2012 8:28 pm

Yep. I would need to run an adaptor. This would at 20mm to the offset; so used wizpops spacers to get an idea.. If anything they added an extra 5mm..
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Shorty
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PostSubject: Re: Tango Van - 1972 westy..   Tango Van - 1972 westy.. - Page 10 EmptySun May 06, 2012 8:38 pm

yeah, they should work ok because Porker whees are usually around ET35.. the BRM's are ET12 IIRC, so you should be 3mm better off, even with an adaptor...
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