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tango_van
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PostSubject: Re: Tango Van - 1972 westy..   Tango Van - 1972 westy.. - Page 13 EmptyThu Jul 17, 2014 10:35 am

That's one side done. will crack on with the n/s rear next.
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PostSubject: Re: Tango Van - 1972 westy..   Tango Van - 1972 westy.. - Page 13 EmptyThu Jul 17, 2014 12:13 pm

You might need to modify the spreader bar if the handbrake is shit

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tango_van
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PostSubject: Re: Tango Van - 1972 westy..   Tango Van - 1972 westy.. - Page 13 EmptyThu Jul 17, 2014 12:20 pm

How? ^^^
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PostSubject: Re: Tango Van - 1972 westy..   Tango Van - 1972 westy.. - Page 13 EmptySat Jul 19, 2014 9:45 am

Sorted n/s last night.
It was in a worse state then the o/s. May order some new backing plates (but then would need to take off the rear hub... So will prob make do until I can get some adjustable spring plates ..)

Torsion plate cover was wreaked. Leaving the van outside 6months has really taken it's toll.
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Also not fully seated!
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Rear brakes were well overdue a rebuild!!! Opps..
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All new parts fitted and brake line made up. Thanks again to Wizpop. Now can refit brakes in half the time as we know what to do!

Just need to bleed the whole system and adjust.
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Road Rage
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PostSubject: Re: Tango Van - 1972 westy..   Tango Van - 1972 westy.. - Page 13 EmptySat Jul 19, 2014 9:22 pm

tango_van wrote:
How? ^^^
the gap that slots onto the shoes wears away so its too big so it will need welding.
if you look at your handbrake lever it is already in the on position
tango_van wrote:


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new star adjusters and pins. and copper slip added where needed
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don't worry that handbrake cable was attached! (a right pain to do)


noted it needs new drive shaft gators again... only lasted 6 years.

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Even split screens had high indicators Wink

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PostSubject: Re: Tango Van - 1972 westy..   Tango Van - 1972 westy.. - Page 13 EmptySat Jul 19, 2014 9:39 pm

I know what you mean
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Road Rage
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PostSubject: Re: Tango Van - 1972 westy..   Tango Van - 1972 westy.. - Page 13 EmptySat Jul 19, 2014 9:41 pm

take them off and come and use my welder if you want

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Sometimes even Volkswagen get it a bit wrong the first time

Even split screens had high indicators Wink

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tango_van
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PostSubject: Re: Tango Van - 1972 westy..   Tango Van - 1972 westy.. - Page 13 EmptySat Jul 19, 2014 10:36 pm

Do you have any measurements for the size/depth the groove should be. There is no fluid in the rear cylinders and not adjusted in the pics yet
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Road Rage
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PostSubject: Re: Tango Van - 1972 westy..   Tango Van - 1972 westy.. - Page 13 EmptySun Jul 20, 2014 5:53 am

10 or 11mm i seem to think
you will probably have 1 groove 10mm the other 15mm, they should both be about the same

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Sometimes even Volkswagen get it a bit wrong the first time

Even split screens had high indicators Wink

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PostSubject: Re: Tango Van - 1972 westy..   Tango Van - 1972 westy.. - Page 13 EmptyMon Jul 21, 2014 6:57 am

Will have a look today. Taking off driveshafts to fit new gators that are arriving this morning.
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PostSubject: Re: Tango Van - 1972 westy..   Tango Van - 1972 westy.. - Page 13 EmptyMon Jul 21, 2014 10:48 am

awww ha that's a cute helper
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tango_van
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PostSubject: Re: Tango Van - 1972 westy..   Tango Van - 1972 westy.. - Page 13 EmptySun Sep 07, 2014 9:44 pm

Finally got round to bleeding the brakes this weekend. And stripped, cleaned the rebuilt up the rear axles, fitted new gators and rebuilt cv joints. One has slight wear on the inside and some pitting. Will replace all of them in the next month or so as will drop the box for some clean up and other plans.
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PostSubject: Re: Tango Van - 1972 westy..   Tango Van - 1972 westy.. - Page 13 EmptyMon Sep 08, 2014 8:44 pm

What time you taking her to Cheddar at the weekend?

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tango_van
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PostSubject: Re: Tango Van - 1972 westy..   Tango Van - 1972 westy.. - Page 13 EmptyMon Sep 08, 2014 9:57 pm

Depends on getting it a ticket this week. Oh and getting a PW ticket also! Lol
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PostSubject: Re: Tango Van - 1972 westy..   Tango Van - 1972 westy.. - Page 13 EmptyMon Sep 08, 2014 10:03 pm

Dave Baugh has a ticket for sale, want me to nobble it for you?

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tango_van
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PostSubject: Re: Tango Van - 1972 westy..   Tango Van - 1972 westy.. - Page 13 EmptyTue Sep 09, 2014 7:26 pm

Smile aye. Let me know
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PostSubject: Re: Tango Van - 1972 westy..   Tango Van - 1972 westy.. - Page 13 EmptyWed Sep 10, 2014 7:19 pm

New led number plate lights fitted and wires all soldered in Wink

Just need to pop some fuel in. Check the oil and warm up engine to check the idle revs.
Check the brakes work.
And

Mot booked for 5pm Friday.!!
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PostSubject: Re: Tango Van - 1972 westy..   Tango Van - 1972 westy.. - Page 13 EmptyWed Sep 10, 2014 9:08 pm

Leaving WsM at 6pm?

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PostSubject: Re: Tango Van - 1972 westy..   Tango Van - 1972 westy.. - Page 13 EmptyThu Sep 11, 2014 6:22 pm

Nope. Not happening now.


Sad


Went to pop some fuel in and blow off the cobwebs down the morrisons mile..

But only managed to turn it round.

No brakes. Sad

Foot straight to the floor Sad

Think it needs a new servo/master cylinder.
Pissed off.
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PostSubject: Re: Tango Van - 1972 westy..   Tango Van - 1972 westy.. - Page 13 EmptyThu Sep 11, 2014 7:03 pm

drunken
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PostSubject: Re: Tango Van - 1972 westy..   Tango Van - 1972 westy.. - Page 13 EmptyThu Sep 11, 2014 9:01 pm

I can take my awning and you can kip in there if you like

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PostSubject: Re: Tango Van - 1972 westy..   Tango Van - 1972 westy.. - Page 13 EmptyThu Sep 11, 2014 9:14 pm

if you get time, clamp all 4 flexi hoses. pump pedal and if the pedal goes solid its not the m/c
if it is solid, release one clamp at a time and when the pedal goes really soft again you have found the brake at fault.
common causes are air trapped in system or poorly adjusted rear shoes.
it cant be the servo but the master cylinder could be at fault.
if you want a master cylinder i can get one from gsf in the morning for you and bring it home.
if you need it then pay for it or i can return it.
ring me before 10am if you want one.

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Sometimes even Volkswagen get it a bit wrong the first time

Even split screens had high indicators Wink

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PostSubject: Re: Tango Van - 1972 westy..   Tango Van - 1972 westy.. - Page 13 EmptyFri Sep 12, 2014 6:28 am

Thanks for the info, will have a check on Saturday.
When I was pressure bleeding the system, it started to pour brake fluid out under the front end, collecting in the chassis rail at the low point behind the servo/master cylinder. So think it's a seal or a union... Also the revs drop a lot when the brakes are applied, so servo has a leak.(have replaced all servo pipe apart from the solid main line).
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PostSubject: Re: Tango Van - 1972 westy..   Tango Van - 1972 westy.. - Page 13 EmptySun Sep 14, 2014 6:56 am

Re-bled brakes again yesterday. Then readjusted rears. Have a brake pedal now. But no handbrake on the drivers side... Cable not moving. Thanks wizbiz for popping round. Made things easier!

Also: re-routed aux loom and put into a plastic cable sleeve and fixed reverse lights.

Will had to dismantle drivers side rear drum this morning to see what's not working..
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PostSubject: Re: Tango Van - 1972 westy..   Tango Van - 1972 westy.. - Page 13 EmptySun Sep 14, 2014 6:38 pm

Sorted rear drum out. Handbrake lever was sat on the hub....

Me = stupid adjusting rear brakes with the handbrake cables not slackened off enough !!

So, 3rd time lucky!! Re-re-adjusted the brakes (with handbrake cables very slack) then checked and adjusted the handbrake with the rear wheels on the floor.

Also: sorted out a loose steering column base.
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