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PostSubject: New Engine   Sun Apr 05, 2009 9:11 pm

Engine died last week. Sad

Had enough of the Volkspares... Evil or Very Mad

so booked into Classy Campers for a new one.

1910 type 4 from the engine shop (fast road cam) with twin empi hmpx 40's

should give a better performance on the top end now & the turbo thomas exhaust will bolt straight in and is more suited to the engine this time! bounce

so will soon have some twin Weber ICT 34 type 4 carbs up for sale Wink

Should all be done just in time for CTTP..
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PostSubject: Re: Tango Van - 1972 westy..   Sun Apr 05, 2009 9:23 pm

cool, pics its the rules Wink





when work begins lol
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PostSubject: Re: Tango Van - 1972 westy..   Mon Apr 06, 2009 9:38 am

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Engine died last week. Sad

Had enough of the Volkspares... Evil or Very Mad

so booked into Classy Campers for a new one.

1910 type 4 from the engine shop (fast road cam) with twin empi hmpx 40's

should give a better performance on the top end now & the turbo thomas exhaust will bolt straight in and is more suited to the engine this time! bounce

so will soon have some twin Weber ICT 34 type 4 carbs up for sale Wink

Should all be done just in time for CTTP..

check on the engine, i belive that the engine shop, supply volkspares there engines now, as it used to be part of the same company.

all the adverts in the mag are the same as volkspares.

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PostSubject: Re: Tango Van - 1972 westy..   Mon Apr 06, 2009 8:26 pm

Thanks for the heads up Andy. Did a fair bit of research and phone calls as advert / coloured engines look the same as volkspares.

vzi link: http://www.volkszone.com/VZi/showthread.php?t=459427&page=3

Rang them up and spoke to Jim - all engines are built to order - and will build to your spec - heads etc. Seem very sound and all guaranteed.

so hopefully will be fine.
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PostSubject: Re: Tango Van - 1972 westy..   Wed Apr 22, 2009 8:46 pm

Engine should arrive at Classy Campers by the end of the week!

Still being built...
Damm easter holidays, always delay things.

At least it's meant the tinwear can be blasted/cleaned and resprayed in a nice satin black..

Carbs arrived, sitting in a box waiting..haven't even managed to see them yet..

..

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So will get some pics up when things start to happen!
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PostSubject: Re: Tango Van - 1972 westy..   Thu Apr 23, 2009 9:29 am

fair shout bud
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PostSubject: Re: Tango Van - 1972 westy..   Sun Apr 26, 2009 10:16 pm

At last...the engine was sent out on Friday!!


can't wait.

Classy Campers have cleaned up all of my tinwear, blasted and given a coat of lovely new satin black... Smile Smile Smile

so should be meeting it's lovely new carbs on Monday (hopefully!)
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PostSubject: Re: Tango Van - 1972 westy..   Sun Apr 26, 2009 10:46 pm

PIC'S.................( carl )
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PostSubject: Re: Tango Van - 1972 westy..   Sun Apr 26, 2009 11:22 pm

nomates wrote:
PIC'S.................( carl )

lol! lol!

tis the rule though PICS
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PostSubject: Re: Tango Van - 1972 westy..   Mon Apr 27, 2009 9:40 pm

will try and pop down to get some piccys... not back from work till 6:30-7ish so will prob end up being when it's all installed!.. argh
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PostSubject: Re: Tango Van - 1972 westy..   Sun May 03, 2009 10:27 am

Engine in for the mo anyhow.

took a pic on phone so poor quality...



got to get the manifolds tapped and drilled for the servo vac takeoff.

hopefully done on tues..

then run it in for a bit, oil change and then off to rolling road!!

.. what do you recon.. paint the fan housing or polish it?
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PostSubject: Re: Tango Van - 1972 westy..   Sun May 03, 2009 10:49 am

Polish defo.
Nice one.

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PostSubject: Re: Tango Van - 1972 westy..   Sun May 03, 2009 11:29 am

Would they then have to lacquer it to keep it nice, or will it be a constant job to keep it sparkling?

got more tin to go in and then tuning to be done.

Ady mentioned the timing is quite far around at 25 deg...

it's running an Engle 'fast road' cam, 009, blue coil, Empi hmpx twin dual 40's, turbo thomas header 1 5/8ths and 2.5" turbo muffler.

any idea what the cam might be, is it 110 or something else?
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PostSubject: Re: Tango Van - 1972 westy..   Tue May 05, 2009 10:37 pm

Emailed the engine shop info address the other night.
Got an email first thing the following morning answering all my questions etc.. from the man himself Jim Gray!

so the engle 'fast road' cam = 286* duration.

should be ready to collect tomoz!

Gotta go back in for the drilling of the manifolds and mot is up on the 17th May....

... can I do 500 miles at no more than 50 mph before then..?
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PostSubject: Re: Tango Van - 1972 westy..   Wed May 06, 2009 6:14 am

I think it is revs you need to watch rather than top speed.
Don't labour the engine........ask Big Al as he is running his engine in on the B2'91' car.

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PostSubject: Re: Tango Van - 1972 westy..   Wed May 06, 2009 8:49 pm

would of been ready to collect today, but there was an oil leak :0

ady said it was clean oil and only happen when the van was off the jacks and on the level.

the guys there only just stopped short of stripping the whole engine down..and it was the dipstick bellows that had a 20mm split in it, sending oil into the fan housing and every where inc down onto the headers..

so x1 4.95p bellows to come from heritage/coolair for Friday..

Also had to replace the starter motor as died. nice new bosch one in there now!

Engine comes with a service interval sheet, recommends under 50mph for the first 500 mile, then oil change and service,tappets etc..

Def keep revs low, run her in nice and gently!

Ady mentioned getting it tuned on a rolling road when settled in..

anywhere closer than Plympton?

guide on cost of tune/re-jetting twin 40's?
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PostSubject: Re: Tango Van - 1972 westy..   Wed May 06, 2009 9:38 pm

I am hoping to use a local guy who likes to keep his number a little under wraps to deter the Max Power / Saxo crowd.
I will let you know how I get on and pass on the number.

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PostSubject: Re: Tango Van - 1972 westy..   Wed May 06, 2009 10:24 pm

when running in wear BOTH sides of the rings accellerate to approx 50 then throttle off to about 30 .......when safe to do so Cool
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PostSubject: Re: Tango Van - 1972 westy..   Thu May 07, 2009 7:36 pm

cheers guys, getting loads of advice on this!

so..

2500 rpm for 20mins to 'break in the cam'
then keep under 3500 rpm
500miles ish change oil, filter etc and re-torque heads and adjust tappets

the keep it gentle for the neext 1000 miles ish... (Big Al)
then do the both sides of the rings thing...(nomates)

scoops: cheers and let me know how it goes...
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PostSubject: Re: Tango Van - 1972 westy..   Mon May 11, 2009 9:39 pm

Still had oil on the headers on sat/sun, so took out the fan housing etc to degrease it and make sure there were no more traces of the oil anywhere..

also fitted new accelerator cable and new rear number plate bolt lights for the mot.

pics to follow..

ended up painting the fan housing as was really pitted.
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PostSubject: Re: Tango Van - 1972 westy..   Mon May 11, 2009 10:05 pm

Here you go,

pics as required..















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PostSubject: Re: Tango Van - 1972 westy..   Sun May 17, 2009 1:31 pm

Good news..

passed mot, just a 4mm hole needed closing up behind the front valance.


bad news...

engine still not right.

still leaking oil somewhere around the no 2 cylinder / head..

but only once the engine is up to temp.

it's had the dipstick bellows replaced and c-clipped (just in case!) and the filler gasket replaced and sealed again.

Front crank seal is dry, as is all the pushrods and rocker cover..

Ady reckons it might be the seal between the barrel and the head or a cracked head.

engine is coming out on Monday, checked (again) and then sent back to TES..

not happy.. Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad


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PostSubject: Re: Tango Van - 1972 westy..   Sun May 17, 2009 2:46 pm

I spoke to the engine tuning dude for you........he said he doesn't really want to take on any more work at the moment as he has enough to keep him going until Xmas. Sorry Bud.

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PostSubject: Re: Tango Van - 1972 westy..   Sun May 17, 2009 7:06 pm

no worries scoops,

thanks for asking.

no rush at the mo as no engine to tune!
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PostSubject: Re: Tango Van - 1972 westy..   Thu Jun 18, 2009 8:57 pm

Well, popped by classey campers on the way home tonight....


THE NEW ENGINES GOING BACK IN!!! (hopefully with no leaks of probs)


Should be ready tomorrow after lunch if all goes well. Final fit up and electrics/timing/balance carbs in the morning and test drive!! bounce bounce bounce
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