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PostSubject: Re: 71 Early Bay (formerly known as Superdry)   Thu Feb 24, 2011 7:53 pm

All been sprayed with WD40 and wrapped in plastic until the engine comes out. Should be the week after Sandown.












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PostSubject: Re: 71 Early Bay (formerly known as Superdry)   Thu Feb 24, 2011 8:13 pm

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are you sure thats a counterweighted crank, as there does not appear to have the added weights welded on it.





see the weights welded to the end of the journals.


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PostSubject: Re: 71 Early Bay (formerly known as Superdry)   Thu Feb 24, 2011 8:17 pm

Hmmm, good point, c/w or not it's nice and balanced now!! lol!

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PostSubject: Re: 71 Early Bay (formerly known as Superdry)   Thu Feb 24, 2011 8:52 pm

can it be balanced ...without counter wieghting it?
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PostSubject: Re: 71 Early Bay (formerly known as Superdry)   Thu Feb 24, 2011 8:56 pm

Yes, it better bloody be able to, I've just paid 175 for it to be done!!! lol!

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PostSubject: Re: 71 Early Bay (formerly known as Superdry)   Thu Feb 24, 2011 8:59 pm

just read up .....you can balance it ,but shouldn't rev higher than 4750rpm ....which is about stock ....

if the crank isn't counterweighted , it will move about in the case at higher rpms
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PostSubject: Re: 71 Early Bay (formerly known as Superdry)   Thu Feb 24, 2011 9:06 pm

4750rpm redline. Check.

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PostSubject: Re: 71 Early Bay (formerly known as Superdry)   Mon Feb 28, 2011 11:55 pm

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Yes, it better bloody be able to, I've just paid 175 for it to be done!!! lol!

who did this to you dude i will get them for you they could see you coming especialy if they didnt tell you what sort of crank it is. what spec did they ballence it too. i bet they dont tell you all about it end to end and rotational.
this is my counter weighted crank not all have welded on weights mine was cast in to the original blank but thats what you pay for .

did you have it balenced with the clutch and front pully and was it set up with the bearing and drive gears
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PostSubject: Re: 71 Early Bay (formerly known as Superdry)   Tue Mar 01, 2011 7:29 am

It was all balanced up with the clutch and pulley etc etc
All the rods and pistons etc are all equally weighted too.

The guy at Bowden Engineering in Filton did it, highly recommended from a number of sources.
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Not trying to build a race engine, just get a few extra ponies/torque out of it but also ensure I have a good strong reliable lump.
The engine work has snowballed somewhat, but I'm curious now as to what can be done with a 1600 without going mad, either in terms if budget or mods.
Should be good for writing up for the Ultra VW Staff Projects pages in the coming months...

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PostSubject: Re: 71 Early Bay (formerly known as Superdry)   Tue Mar 01, 2011 9:05 am

Mr Scoops wrote:
It but I'm curious now as to what can be done with a 1600 without going mad, either in terms if budget or mods.

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PostSubject: Re: 71 Early Bay (formerly known as Superdry)   Tue Mar 01, 2011 11:05 am

Nos could be a way of gettin it rollin........or get crewkid or dirty dave to fab u up low pressure turbo setup
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PostSubject: Re: 71 Early Bay (formerly known as Superdry)   Tue Mar 01, 2011 11:18 am

Or a supercharger.....mini cooper ones go for peanuts on ebay........bit of plumbing......few brackets......serpentine belt kit.........loadsa torque and provided it was pulleyed appropriately to keep boost down.....woo hoo
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PostSubject: Re: 71 Early Bay (formerly known as Superdry)   Tue Mar 01, 2011 2:44 pm

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Or a supercharger.....mini cooper ones go for peanuts on ebay........bit of plumbing......few brackets......serpentine belt kit.........loadsa torque and provided it was pulleyed appropriately to keep boost down.....woo hoo

now we are talking. I would use 2 eaton 45s (mini) 1 for each head yum yum a nice set of blow off valves and a pair of carbs to suit. Go for mini metro turbo as these are blow thro and the eaton superchargers are designed for air and not air fuel mix. advantage you can intercool if you can find space try suberu triangle (stock intercoolers) as they are also cheep at the mo and may just fit in the gaps at the side above the heads

Did you know the ideal ignition timing and cam for supercharger aplications is very simular to stock
the dli kit was designed for stock engines.
with regard to nitrus as sugested by wurz its fun i had nos on my old bike again suitable for stock engines but add both together or a lot of each and you will granade it. build a stronger engine first.
Remember the old drag racing method of working out max power / revs


If an engine will rev to 4500 RPM you can make it do 9000 rp1/2m or 30 seconds which could be as many as 4 runs if you are quick enough.

keep boost down to about 6 lbs and stock compression ratio is very suitable especialy on a low compression engine
Oh nos kits are a little cheeper around 300 350 for a single stage universal 4 barrel application 4 x nos and fuel jets in 4 seperate nozzles just right for screwing into threaded holes drilled into the vw manifold castings on a twin port set up.
this will work very well with supercharging as it cools down the inlet charge by masive amounts....



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PostSubject: Re: 71 Early Bay (formerly known as Superdry)   Tue Mar 01, 2011 2:45 pm

Impy Mcdub wrote:
Nos could be a way of gettin it rollin........or get crewkid or dirty dave to fab u up low pressure turbo setup

Why low pressure????????????

go for it.
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PostSubject: Re: 71 Early Bay (formerly known as Superdry)   Tue Mar 01, 2011 3:05 pm

I an genuinely interested in all this shizzle, BUT, I won't be charging or Nitrousing SuperDry!!!

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PostSubject: Re: 71 Early Bay (formerly known as Superdry)   Tue Mar 01, 2011 5:45 pm

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Impy Mcdub wrote:
Nos could be a way of gettin it rollin........or get crewkid or dirty dave to fab u up low pressure turbo setup

Why low pressure????????????

go for it.

Ive got lpt setup on the volvo I jus bought for peanuts....its epic, 180lb ft torque at 2500 rpm and the turbo unit is very compact.....ideal for a vw
Go on scoops....ya know u wanna
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PostSubject: Re: 71 Early Bay (formerly known as Superdry)   Tue Mar 01, 2011 5:52 pm

I'd just build it with more cc's ....and I'd defenatley use a counterweighted crank
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PostSubject: Re: 71 Early Bay (formerly known as Superdry)   Tue Mar 01, 2011 6:03 pm

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I'd just build it with more cc's ....and I'd defenatley use a counterweighted crank
Big cc's cost big money with dubs.........2xrenault 5gt turbo carbs o rejetted to suit on modded kad manifolds, compact reckon turbo unit, scrapyard intercooler, someone smart on here to make up the plumbing side.......easy power for under 1k
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PostSubject: Re: 71 Early Bay (formerly known as Superdry)   Tue Mar 01, 2011 6:05 pm

its only barrels pistons ,heads and carbs Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: 71 Early Bay (formerly known as Superdry)   Tue Mar 01, 2011 6:08 pm

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its only barrels pistons ,heads and carbs Very Happy

How much for 044 heads cos u may as well do it right,.2 gen italian webers, decent cam, moddin the case, etc etc etc....cheap as chips lol
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PostSubject: Re: 71 Early Bay (formerly known as Superdry)   Tue Mar 01, 2011 6:12 pm

Mr Scoops wrote:
I an genuinely interested in all this shizzle, BUT, I won't be charging or Nitrousing SuperDry!!!

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PostSubject: Re: 71 Early Bay (formerly known as Superdry)   Tue Mar 01, 2011 6:46 pm

Mr Scoops wrote:
I an genuinely interested in all this shizzle, BUT, I won't be charging or Nitrousing SuperDry!!!

Well its another moldy old vw then aint it............
well it will do 211mph in that guise if you drop it of a big enough cliff...










lol only joking its a scruffy moldy old vw lol
give it some get up and go go on it will make it coolio
you know the ultimate is supercharger for top end with turbo for mid and top end with nirous for the boost when needed but who could hold it all together..... now there is an idea
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PostSubject: Re: 71 Early Bay (formerly known as Superdry)   Tue Mar 01, 2011 6:48 pm

Impy Mcdub wrote:
nomates wrote:
its only barrels pistons ,heads and carbs Very Happy

How much for 044 heads cos u may as well do it right,.2 gen italian webers, decent cam, moddin the case, etc etc etc....cheap as chips lol


yep ....got all this stuff in my loft ,some secondhand ....some new but never fitted tongue
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PostSubject: Re: 71 Early Bay (formerly known as Superdry)   Tue Mar 01, 2011 6:51 pm

Impy Mcdub wrote:
nomates wrote:
I'd just build it with more cc's ....and I'd defenatley use a counterweighted crank
Big cc's cost big money with dubs.........2xrenault 5gt turbo carbs o rejetted to suit on modded kad manifolds, compact reckon turbo unit, scrapyard intercooler, someone smart on here to make up the plumbing side.......easy power for under 1k

turbo 70 breakers
carbs 20
old pipe 20
bits and bobs 40 oil line and a few carb parts

all in 250 if you can weld and you dont mind what it looks like
yehaa ride it
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PostSubject: Re: 71 Early Bay (formerly known as Superdry)   Tue Mar 01, 2011 7:08 pm

I was goin for a grand if u wanted it pretty......scoops likes shiny polishable stuff
I budgeted 300 in me head for secondhand kit
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