| Whitebrow's 65 Bug Full Restoration | |
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whitebrow83 Blitzen Regular
Number of posts : 126 Age : 41 Registration date : 2013-05-22
| Subject: Re: Whitebrow's 65 Bug Full Restoration Fri Nov 29, 2013 1:21 pm | |
| Right 4 cutting discs later and the body is free from the pans! Hopefully get the engine out this weekend. | |
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whitebrow83 Blitzen Regular
Number of posts : 126 Age : 41 Registration date : 2013-05-22
| Subject: Re: Whitebrow's 65 Bug Full Restoration Mon Dec 02, 2013 1:26 pm | |
| Felt like I made some good progress on Saturday as Rich helped me with removing then engine. Seemed to go smooth until it slipped off the jack and we found out it only had 3 bolts holding it in. Typical. Had a good chat with Joker (Andy) who gave some good advice on panel choice and fitting. Here's some pics (obviously engine needs some work). I was very surprised with the firewall as I thought it would be rotten as the previous owner had covered it up with shitty tinware. Although the engine trays and rear sections need replacing due to be rotten and covered up with a dodgy patch. | |
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whitebrow83 Blitzen Regular
Number of posts : 126 Age : 41 Registration date : 2013-05-22
| Subject: Re: Whitebrow's 65 Bug Full Restoration Mon Dec 02, 2013 1:30 pm | |
| Looking at those trays, looks like the previous owner welded them incorrectly as they dont line up with the rear valance seal runner.
Looks odd to me! | |
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vwroadster Blitzen Regular
Number of posts : 337 Age : 67 Location : Portishead My Ride(s) : Wizard Roadster Registration date : 2007-03-15
| Subject: Re: Whitebrow's 65 Bug Full Restoration Mon Dec 02, 2013 9:03 pm | |
| Has the rear valance been replaced?
I found with a replacement I bought, the channel didn't line up with the original side trays, it sat lower like yours does at the rear. | |
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whitebrow83 Blitzen Regular
Number of posts : 126 Age : 41 Registration date : 2013-05-22
| Subject: Re: Whitebrow's 65 Bug Full Restoration Mon Dec 02, 2013 9:08 pm | |
| Thats what I was thinking mate. I has holes between the notched for the exhausts so im 99% sure its a replacement.
What did you do to sort it? | |
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clockwork DBS Top Sphincter
Number of posts : 7198 Age : 52 Location : Wouldn't I like to know My Ride(s) : Rollercoaster Registration date : 2009-08-09
| Subject: Re: Whitebrow's 65 Bug Full Restoration Mon Dec 02, 2013 11:21 pm | |
| - whitebrow83 wrote:
What did you do to sort it? Just a guess but going from the profile picture and user name I'd say he sacked the whole lot off and replaced it with fiberglass | |
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vwroadster Blitzen Regular
Number of posts : 337 Age : 67 Location : Portishead My Ride(s) : Wizard Roadster Registration date : 2007-03-15
| Subject: Re: Whitebrow's 65 Bug Full Restoration Tue Dec 03, 2013 6:51 pm | |
| Didn't do it on the Wizard (I didn't build it and it's a steel rear valance).
The options could be to sit a replacement in position (if replacing) and work out if it does need modifying. (As below)
Or if keeping the original see if you can slice (horizontally on the inside, approx. 25mm or the difference) a section out and move the inner piece up to match the channel on the side trays. Quite a bit of work but should see a better seal of your engine compartment keeping the hot exhaust heat separate from the intake. | |
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whitebrow83 Blitzen Regular
Number of posts : 126 Age : 41 Registration date : 2013-05-22
| Subject: Re: Whitebrow's 65 Bug Full Restoration Fri Dec 06, 2013 7:13 pm | |
| Got a delivery of the Wolksburg 18 gauge passenger side pan this week. I have to say, thanks to Joker for recommending this one as it fits perfect, looks an exact replica of the original i removed. Heres some photos of a test fit. It didnt need any alterations and just fitted like a glove. I put some of the bolts back in even though the heater channel is shot and they fitted bang on. So chuffed with it. Just need to make sure I get good heater channels as well. I need to drill spot weld holes in the pan. Ive seen a few videos where people say 2 inches apart. Is that correct and how far from the edge do each hole need to be? | |
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joker 67 DBS Old Timer
Number of posts : 3498 Age : 54 Location : Clevedon My Ride(s) : 2018 Skoda Karoq edition and something else Registration date : 2008-02-11
| Subject: Re: Whitebrow's 65 Bug Full Restoration Fri Dec 06, 2013 10:46 pm | |
| Every inch for a spot weld, 8mm hole. Make sure all is clean, good ally weld through primer, not zinc primer. As zinc is no good for mig. Get x-member in first.
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whitebrow83 Blitzen Regular
Number of posts : 126 Age : 41 Registration date : 2013-05-22
| Subject: Re: Whitebrow's 65 Bug Full Restoration Sat Dec 07, 2013 9:57 am | |
| Cool, will get the pan sorted this weekend. I have another question. Do I try and save as much of the floor plate as possible as half of it and 90% of the lip that the pan sits on is rusted? Or just replace it with the one that came with the pan. | |
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whitebrow83 Blitzen Regular
Number of posts : 126 Age : 41 Registration date : 2013-05-22
| Subject: Re: Whitebrow's 65 Bug Full Restoration Sat Dec 07, 2013 4:56 pm | |
| Ok today i removed the floor plate on the n/s making sure i made measurements and a few notches to show where points are. I tried to save some of it but realised it was too rusty to save. I then started to drill the floor pan. I broke my 8mm drill bit so used 7mm every inch andjust over 1/4 inch away from the edge. I then checked the positioning of it before I removed the last part of the floor plate. I then cleaned everything up. I tried test fitting the new floor plate, X member and floor pan. Had a little issue with the pan not fittng eactly due to the floor plate. | |
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whitebrow83 Blitzen Regular
Number of posts : 126 Age : 41 Registration date : 2013-05-22
| Subject: Re: Whitebrow's 65 Bug Full Restoration Sat Dec 07, 2013 6:32 pm | |
| Reading through jokers thread and his last comment I think ive done this slightly in the wrong order.
I should havewelded the x member to the boot floor first, drilled the holes into the floor plate and the removed the floor plate.
Although with the x member there it would have made it difficult to remove the plate. | |
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joker 67 DBS Old Timer
Number of posts : 3498 Age : 54 Location : Clevedon My Ride(s) : 2018 Skoda Karoq edition and something else Registration date : 2008-02-11
| Subject: Re: Whitebrow's 65 Bug Full Restoration Sun Dec 08, 2013 9:30 am | |
| It is so you can line it all up properly. I told you don't cut too much out in one go. | |
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joker 67 DBS Old Timer
Number of posts : 3498 Age : 54 Location : Clevedon My Ride(s) : 2018 Skoda Karoq edition and something else Registration date : 2008-02-11
| Subject: Re: Whitebrow's 65 Bug Full Restoration Sun Dec 08, 2013 9:32 am | |
| The little tab on the rear torsion bar for floor weld, just make sure you clean all the old panel off correctly, and don't hit it too hard as it's cast so will break off. | |
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Big_Al DBS Old Timer
Number of posts : 3616 Age : 51 Location : Under The Thumb. My Ride(s) : 1970 looker, 2009 T5 'The Night Fury!', 2006 Challenger 3 tank (wife's)! Registration date : 2008-02-05
| Subject: Re: Whitebrow's 65 Bug Full Restoration Sun Dec 08, 2013 11:25 am | |
| - joker 67 wrote:
- It is so you can line it all up properly.
I told you don't cut too much out in one go. QFT. | |
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whitebrow83 Blitzen Regular
Number of posts : 126 Age : 41 Registration date : 2013-05-22
| Subject: Re: Whitebrow's 65 Bug Full Restoration Sun Dec 08, 2013 4:09 pm | |
| Its all good now, ive taken 4 measurements and compare them all to the original o/s plate and it all lines up perfectly. False alarm! Ive also cleaned up the little tab which appears to be oval in shape. | |
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tango_van DBS Old Timer
Number of posts : 2846 Age : 42 Location : Wsm My Ride(s) : 1972 Westy Camper Van, 09 Newbie 1.9tdi, Audi A4 B7 S-line Registration date : 2006-10-11
| Subject: Re: Whitebrow's 65 Bug Full Restoration Mon Dec 16, 2013 10:20 pm | |
| Craig... You still alive or have you welded yourself into the pan? | |
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whitebrow83 Blitzen Regular
Number of posts : 126 Age : 41 Registration date : 2013-05-22
| Subject: Re: Whitebrow's 65 Bug Full Restoration Tue Dec 17, 2013 4:35 pm | |
| Help!!! I've been stuck here for weeks Nah just kicking my ex out the house so I can fit more Beetle parts lol On a serious note. I havent done anything and have a pan drilled and ready to weld along with a x member and the o/s pan to prep. Got a few weeks off over Christmas so will aim to weld then. | |
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WizBizMartin DBS Old Timer
Number of posts : 2531 Age : 33 Location : W-S-M My Ride(s) : 85 Mexican Beetle, 20v T Beetle, Honda Xr125 Registration date : 2008-11-27
| Subject: Re: Whitebrow's 65 Bug Full Restoration Wed Dec 18, 2013 9:12 am | |
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whitebrow83 Blitzen Regular
Number of posts : 126 Age : 41 Registration date : 2013-05-22
| Subject: Re: Whitebrow's 65 Bug Full Restoration Wed Dec 18, 2013 9:24 am | |
| My last day is today and im not back until the 6th! FUCK YEAH! | |
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WizBizMartin DBS Old Timer
Number of posts : 2531 Age : 33 Location : W-S-M My Ride(s) : 85 Mexican Beetle, 20v T Beetle, Honda Xr125 Registration date : 2008-11-27
| Subject: Re: Whitebrow's 65 Bug Full Restoration Mon Jan 20, 2014 1:58 pm | |
| craig has been too busy playing with his small willy rather than his welder | |
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whitebrow83 Blitzen Regular
Number of posts : 126 Age : 41 Registration date : 2013-05-22
| Subject: Re: Whitebrow's 65 Bug Full Restoration Mon Jan 20, 2014 3:24 pm | |
| I've been on too many dates and now I have a frayed stump! lol No more dates after this weekend and back on the bug. I've also decided to admit defeat and just send the body off to get it all done professionally as theres just too much to do. My wallets going to look like my last dates wizards sleeve but at least there's a good chance it'll be done this year. | |
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tango_van DBS Old Timer
Number of posts : 2846 Age : 42 Location : Wsm My Ride(s) : 1972 Westy Camper Van, 09 Newbie 1.9tdi, Audi A4 B7 S-line Registration date : 2006-10-11
| Subject: Re: Whitebrow's 65 Bug Full Restoration Mon Jan 20, 2014 8:39 pm | |
| - Big_Al wrote:
- joker 67 wrote:
- It is so you can line it all up properly.
I told you don't cut too much out in one go. QFT. this rings a bell... looking forward to seeing it sorted.. you sending it to TODS? | |
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whitebrow83 Blitzen Regular
Number of posts : 126 Age : 41 Registration date : 2013-05-22
| Subject: Re: Whitebrow's 65 Bug Full Restoration Mon Jan 20, 2014 8:47 pm | |
| Shut it house bender! It just needs to be sorted and ive got alot of freelance work on recently that will fund it. yeah should be going in to TODS if they have room for it when its ready. Im going to weld the x members and pans in first though and provide them the whole car. The idea is that they then work on the heater channels and anything else they need to have the chassis for and then i'll have the chassis back to break down furnther, and sand blast. Will need your help Rich with brakes and rear swing arm. | |
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vietnam DBS Old Timer
Number of posts : 1671 Age : 35 Location : Bleadon My Ride(s) : 07 Golf, t25 devon Registration date : 2011-01-04
| Subject: Re: Whitebrow's 65 Bug Full Restoration Mon Jan 20, 2014 9:11 pm | |
| Enjoy the wait, spence has got my fasty to sort out next week! | |
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